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Working hours

Discussion in 'Employees and Human Resources' started by Corazon, Apr 11, 2016.

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  1. Travelingsarah

    Travelingsarah Member

    I would love to know why you don't believe in work\life balance. I'm a travel agent who wants to help entrepreneurs reconnect with their families through travel. I feel like it's important to take time to be with your family. If someone is just working and sleeping, they are going to burn out.
  2. Josephine Stuart

    Josephine Stuart MVP Member

    I find the perspectives in this thread very interesting. I've noticed recently that people love to glorify the concept of overworking; they love to brag about getting little sleep or not having a social life because they're too busy putting in overtime.

    But that isn't healthy, folks. You may be making more money than you would have otherwise, or maybe your business is expanding faster, or something -- but it's not healthy (for you OR your business) long-term. Plus, like many people in this thread have already said, you can't be productive for 14 hours straight. There's a reason 8 or 10 hour shifts are standard, and why breaks are both mandatory and recommended.
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  3. Travelingsarah

    Travelingsarah Member

    I could not agree with you more. We need to balance a lot of things in order to have a healthy life. There is work and family, there is also health, friends, church.. Balancing everything is hard, but it is worth it.
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  4. Jessica Danes

    Jessica Danes MVP Member

    That's ridiculous! As a business owner, I understand working 24/7, but no one is forcing me to do it. It is a choice I make to help my business. I would never force my employees to work over half the day! Surprisingly though, this is not uncommon. I found this article on Fortune.com comparing various countries' average work week hours. The U.S. ranks 16th averaging 34.40 hours, as calculated back in 2014.
  5. crueldeceiver

    crueldeceiver Member

    I was once in a company who have a Mandatory OT everyday before and after shifts. The feel in the workplace everytime I came in is stressful and unhappiness. I ended up leaving the company after a year.
  6. djbaxter

    djbaxter Administrator Moderator Member

    I know there are companies that have mandatory overtime at certain times of the year, like pre-holidays or inventory, but every day is obscene and probably illegal in most parts of the free world. I don't blame you for leaving. That is a recipe for total burnout.
  7. bea999

    bea999 Member

    Well.. 14 hours per day is too much. That is dangerous... with such timetable, it is difficult to stay healthy
    About the balance... I wish that there exist some balance. What I feel that there is no balance at all. All the time have to think and solve 100 problems at the same time. Sometimes, I have a feeling that some people even scared to stop for a second, including myself
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  8. Julia Sta Romana

    Julia Sta Romana Member

    No, a 14 hour work day isn't the standard here. Like everywhere else in the world, our standard is an 8 hour work day. It is ILLEGAL to require 14 hours without overtime pay. It's in our labor laws.

    What the OP meant was the MAXIMUM work day that you can ask from an employee is 14 hours. That's an 8 hour work day plus maximum of 6 hours overtime that you have to pay extra for. There's even a limit to how much overtime an employee can do per month and there's ALWAYS an option to refuse overtime work:

    "Art. 87. Overtime work. Work may be performed beyond eight (8) hours a day provided that the employee is paid for the overtime work, an additional compensation equivalent to his regular wage plus at least twenty-five percent (25%) thereof. Work performed beyond eight hours on a holiday or rest day shall be paid an additional compensation equivalent to the rate of the first eight hours on a holiday or rest day plus at least thirty percent (30%) thereof."

    The ONLY time we're required to do overtime and can't refuse are under these circumstances

    "Art. 89. Emergency overtime work. Any employee may be required by the employer to perform overtime work in any of the following cases:

    1. When the country is at war or when any other national or local emergency has been declared by the National Assembly or the Chief Executive;
    2. When it is necessary to prevent loss of life or property or in case of imminent danger to public safety due to an actual or impending emergency in the locality caused by serious accidents, fire, flood, typhoon, earthquake, epidemic, or other disaster or calamity;
    3. When there is urgent work to be performed on machines, installations, or equipment, in order to avoid serious loss or damage to the employer or some other cause of similar nature;
    4. When the work is necessary to prevent loss or damage to perishable goods; and
    5. Where the completion or continuation of the work started before the eighth hour is necessary to prevent serious obstruction or prejudice to the business or operations of the employer.
    Any employee required to render overtime work under this Article shall be paid the additional compensation required in this Chapter."

    If the OP is being required to work overtime without proper compensation and without the option to refuse, she should report it to the Department of Labor and Employment.
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